Date: Sat Feb 24, 2001 1:22am Hello, Thanks for letting me join your group. I am an activist/advocate and a mother of a DAMAGED BY NEUROLEPTIC-ANTI-DEPRESSANT young man. He never had a chance to do any of the things that young men do. He never had a girlfriend, beer with the boys, street drugs, just pumped full of neuroleptics and anti- depressant and anti-psychotics till he acquired, Dystonia, Permanent Movement Disorders and wetting to bed. My son also has Tardive Dyskinesia given to him by numerous quacks at Valley Medical in Santa Clara, Ca. He went for help so they POISONED AND DEFORMED HIM FOR LIFE! He has been restrained and drugged over 50 times, pepper sprayed and attacked by police due to the "side effects" of the "treatment" the quacks dish out to people they "label". We know they need "heads" to keep them thriving but some of us moms/dads DO NOT WANT OUR LOVED ONES USED FOR RESEARCH UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES! It has been a long, hard 6 years fighting these bastards to try to save our only child/man from continuous poisoning that seemed to never end. We were told that he was "SuperSensitive" and the next step(they tell everybody this) would be ELECTRO CONVULSIVE THERAPY! And if that didn't work, you guessed it CINGULOTOMY (LOBOTOMY). They caused all these problems and messed up our lives (all three of us). My husband, myself and of course my poor son who had to live through this nightmare that never ended and never will. Sincerely, Linda Valentine RAPS/RELATIVE & ALLIE SO PSYCHIATRIC SURVIVORS(SOME ARE DEAD) Branch of Support Coalition International/Dendron Date: Sat Feb 24, 2001 1:34am Hi Everyone! Just wanted to introduce myself and let everyone know that my life is dedicated to fighting for lives against the psychiatric and pharmaceutical rackets cruel and abusive treatment. "First Do NO Harm" should be removed from their OATH as I watch thousands of humans end up in werehouses drugged beyond recognition and held as prisoners begging for their monies and any freedom to be found. Our lives (my husband, myself and my DAMAGED BY NEUROLEPTICS/ANTI-PSYCHOTICS & ANTI-DEPRESSANT son have lived through almost 6 years of hedious "treatment". We ended up with permanent Tardive Dyskinesia, not the way my son was born but through the "labels" & "forced drugging, restraints, lies and coercion" that we dealt with. The agony of ruining the one thing in my life that I dedicated all my time too, my only child! They can fool lots of the people lots of the time but they couldn't fool me. Seeing him laying on the floors in the psycho-wards opened up my eyes, hearing the screams and abusive restraint treatments, the injections of pesticides given to anyone who showed any emotion opened up my eyes. I have information for anyone on any drug and how to get help to get off of these poisons. First of all, if you are depressed remember, it is normal. DO NOT TAKE A PILL AND HOPE TO END YOUR DEPRESSION. You should know that SUICIDE is a "side effect". My son was trying to kill himself for over 3 years. The police would call me up all hours of the day and night to tell me he was laying in the freeway. DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOUR LOVED ONES! Linda Valentine Date: Sun Feb 25, 2001 8:29am Linda's response to Randy: Dear Randy, It sounds like the "Inner Torment" one feels when on any of these drugs. My son also is labeled with "OCD" but I learned that the drugs make someone unable to stop doing things over and over. He repeats everything and he also has trouble with noises like cars. When we sit out back if a car drives by fast he gets up and yells that they are making noises at him and he can't stand it. My son use to drive! I hate what they have done to him. When he sits beside me in my car and other cars on the side of his seat drive by he puts his arm up covering his eyes. I was told once that this is just like LSD, sitting around in your body and brain waiting to be aggrevated. It is horrible and withdrawal can take many years even if you have been on these poisons only a short time. Just know it will go away but it will take time. You are inside yourself and you will be rid of all the residue from these horrible drugs. Sincerely, Linda Valentine Date: Sun Feb 25, 2001 10:16am Response: (from Randy) Hi Linda, I want to thank you for responding to one of my messages, I am very sorry to hear about your son, beleive me I am 31 years old and live by myself and my mom calls and worries about me all the time, it is a heartache I was okay all my life basically until I started taking Paxil, and I know those people in this mental health proffession are you know what, the mind is not something to let them mess around with we feel we are at their mercy and give in because there seems to be no alternative, I don't know if you are religous or not but I will remember you and your son in my prayers tonight. Randy Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 8:41am Hi Randy, Thanks for responding. It probably scares most of these people but if they take that first little pill they may end up the same way. I watch hundreds of these poor victims being werehoused and used for "scientific pharmaceutical research". No one cares for them at all. They pace, talk to themselves are around others who have TB, AIDs, Hepatitis B,C, etc. They are being used by so- called "doctors" and "drug racketteers". Hate to be so blunt but I earned this madness watching my only child being tortured and abused by the psycho-system. He has been on Anafranil, Buspar, Serzone, Prozac, Luvox, Zoloft, Serentil, Ativan, Cogentin, Haldol, Mellaril, Depakote, etc, etc. We were coerced, lied too and tricked. They even tried to Conserve him and told us the petition I stole out of his room was nothing but formality. We took it immediately to an attorney as she told us we had 3 days! 3 days to petition the court so our son could stay with us instead of these headhunters. Thanks for the prayers and reply. Sincerely, Linda Valentine Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:08pm Response: Hi Linda, I tried to read your attach. but the real player brought up only a huge amount of encripted mush, how can I get it???? I thank you for your encouragment, Bob has been so hurt by his wonderful doctors, I hate them all, but Bob is not ready to face the fact that he is a benzo addict and his doctors (all new) did not know him before and they are treating only his symptoms, ass holes one and all. I think I could kill some of them if I owned a gun, they have ruined our family, we are now estranged from both my side and Bob's, so sad for our daughter to have no family, I have made enemies of all of them, because I will go to the end fighting doctors, hospitals, family, friends, anyone who wants Bob to stay on and/or raise his drug levels....I think the pain and suffering should be the responsibility of the pharmo companies. Linda, I too have an only daughter, she is dyslexic and our wonderful Texas schools wanted her to fail so she could be put into small self- contained classrooms. I said "hell no" and fought for years, our district now has changed their attitudes to some degree and I will pat myself on the back for that in part, by the way, she is an honors student at the U. of North TX....shit on the public school system....Now this horror has started with Bob, there is no way I can fight the learned "DOCTORS" of the world....my dad and older brother are both MDs, they think I am nuts, so good bye to them both, we do not even talk now, and the last each told me was that I had to trust the medical proffession.........WHAT DO THEY TEACH THESE PEOPLE IN MED SCHOOL, I am so angry today....Bob has an appointment at the VA hospital here......TODAY, this time it is the phychologist....I hate them all. My heart goes out to you, your son is your life and I am so sorry this has happened to your "baby", how sad, I understand your plight, I do, I really do, my prayers are with you and I would like to get to know you better, Hugs, Joey